650 drive train

[FrostySteve1]

Hi all, Does anyone have or know how much a second hand drive hub and shaft for a 650 Euro?

Can they be interchanged with the 500 euro hub?

If out of my budget just how dificult is a hub strip and rebuild with new bearings/seals .It looks very complex with a few special tools required?

Mine has started to clunk when i pull away but only when the hub has warmed up,and never on engine breaking or thru the gears.Pulls like a train still .The crown wheel looks ok and the hub is quiet when rotated by hand. Ive listened to the bearings and they seam quiet.The drive shaft seal it very loose and there is quite alot rotory movement by the shaft in the drive cup. So guys and galls how much is this gona cost me

What next ?

[SkippyGL650]

From what you describe it sounds like you have a lot of wear on the splines, both on the output shaft and the driveshaft, probably down to lack of lubrication at some point.

Perhaps Hann or one of the other Euro boys will be able to tell you about interchangability, but I don't see why not as long as you get the correct stud pattern diff it will fit.

Taking a diff apart isn't easy, and yes you do need some special tools to lock it all up etc.

[Philcam]

As far as I know the 650 hub and 500 hub are different. The 650 has 4 bolt points where it connects to the swing arm and the 500 has only 3. So it would probably mean a new swingarm as well to covert to the 500. I dont know about the difference at the other end of the swing arm though.

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[JR]

I recently changed the main bearing and oil seals in my rear drive unit, the splines for the wheel to locate on to were extremely worn . I removed a crown wheel with good splines from a std CX rear drive unit and fitted it into my GL casing.

Special tools are going to be a major advantage, but nothing a bit of enginuity can't get round!

go on have a go!

regards John

PS get your seals and bearings if required from a local factor lots cheaper than Honda

[CXDave]

I had the main inner bearing go on my 650ED last year, I got the bearing and seal from my local bearing shop - much cheaper than Mr Honda. The outer seal is a non-std size. With the 650, you don't need special tools unless you are doing the shaft bearing.

500s and 650 drives are the reverse gender.

[FrostySteve1]

Thanks all all the advice guys,

I had another look and the splined bit on the end of the drive shaft (HUB END) is worn and the metal raised on the flat ends of the spline. I guess the bearing may have gone to due to the excesive rotory play on the drive shaft and a gap all aroung the seal,altho no noise is comming from it.

So can i only use a drive shaft/Spline from a 650ed?
Is it possible to put all the innards of a standard 500 into my casing?
Am i better of buying a second hand drive train when one comes avalible or is it better to get a drive shaft and maybe a new bevel gear/bearing/dive cup,bearing and seals and do it myself??

Hmmmmmmmmmmmmm

FrostySteve 'n' RubyRed